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<blockquote data-quote="W. Mark Hellinger" data-source="post: 32424" data-attributes="member: 692"><p>Re: Unbelievable!</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I personally don't believe it's just economies of scale.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">NIMBY is seemingly fairly strong and seemingly omni-present here in the US. I suspect there is no such thing as NIMBY in countries with industrial growth. Not to say that being observant of the consequences of long term crapping in your mess kit is bad business and good business is damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead (and just keep crapping in your mess kit) in the name of short term seeming progress & profits and screw the consequences of whatever tomorrow might bring... but:</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">All the stuff has got to come from somewhere. And: Typically making stuff involves making noise (typically at ungawdly hours... well before noon), and there's activity, and working class people milling about, and dirt & dust, and concrete & railroads rather than ski-slopes, duck ponds, and nature mt. bike trails (with paddle boats and folks lounging about… extreme posing).</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I dunno... consumption generally seems to be a much prettier picture than heavy industry.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Maybe it is economy of scale. The US currently seems to be at the top of their game economy of scale wise concerning consumption. Some other countries seem to be doing better at the supply side economy of scale... not that they're right and we're wrong... but... geeze... gimme a break already... small business is not a cornucopia of cash to be plucked at will... endlessly... eventually I'll get tired and give up... along with everyone else like myself... and then what? Tax couch surfing?</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I’d dearly like to put more folks to work building more of what I sell (that I designed and proved-up)… but: No can do… well… and stay competitive. One example of what I’m up against would be my somewhat recent power service story, or my covered forklift path story, or… it goes on and on.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I suspect its way easier to get building permits to build a golf course in the US than it is to get building permits to build anything that has to do with heavy industry… and there’s no doubt it’s way easier to get public approval of a golf course, or ski resort than it is to get public approval of a nasty ole factory or strip mine (even though the strip mine might be less of an over-all impact to the environment long-term than the ski resort... but then I suspect ski bunnies are quite a bit different than strip mine bunnies). Regardless: If it isn't grown, it's probably gotta be mined... somehow, someway or another.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">What to do about it all? I dunno... maybe get a lot smarter? Support your homeboys when they have the right attitude and drive and are fighting the good fight? </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Vote? (BTW: Our state govt. recently eliminated primaries in this state... so I guess voting is on the road to being outsourced here... too)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I really don't know what the answer(s) is(are).</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="W. Mark Hellinger, post: 32424, member: 692"] Re: Unbelievable! [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]I personally don't believe it's just economies of scale. NIMBY is seemingly fairly strong and seemingly omni-present here in the US. I suspect there is no such thing as NIMBY in countries with industrial growth. Not to say that being observant of the consequences of long term crapping in your mess kit is bad business and good business is damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead (and just keep crapping in your mess kit) in the name of short term seeming progress & profits and screw the consequences of whatever tomorrow might bring... but: All the stuff has got to come from somewhere. And: Typically making stuff involves making noise (typically at ungawdly hours... well before noon), and there's activity, and working class people milling about, and dirt & dust, and concrete & railroads rather than ski-slopes, duck ponds, and nature mt. bike trails (with paddle boats and folks lounging about… extreme posing). I dunno... consumption generally seems to be a much prettier picture than heavy industry.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]Maybe it is economy of scale. The US currently seems to be at the top of their game economy of scale wise concerning consumption. Some other countries seem to be doing better at the supply side economy of scale... not that they're right and we're wrong... but... geeze... gimme a break already... small business is not a cornucopia of cash to be plucked at will... endlessly... eventually I'll get tired and give up... along with everyone else like myself... and then what? Tax couch surfing?[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#222222][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]I’d dearly like to put more folks to work building more of what I sell (that I designed and proved-up)… but: No can do… well… and stay competitive. One example of what I’m up against would be my somewhat recent power service story, or my covered forklift path story, or… it goes on and on.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]I suspect its way easier to get building permits to build a golf course in the US than it is to get building permits to build anything that has to do with heavy industry… and there’s no doubt it’s way easier to get public approval of a golf course, or ski resort than it is to get public approval of a nasty ole factory or strip mine (even though the strip mine might be less of an over-all impact to the environment long-term than the ski resort... but then I suspect ski bunnies are quite a bit different than strip mine bunnies). Regardless: If it isn't grown, it's probably gotta be mined... somehow, someway or another. What to do about it all? I dunno... maybe get a lot smarter? Support your homeboys when they have the right attitude and drive and are fighting the good fight? Vote? (BTW: Our state govt. recently eliminated primaries in this state... so I guess voting is on the road to being outsourced here... too) I really don't know what the answer(s) is(are).[/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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