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<blockquote data-quote="Art Welter" data-source="post: 89229" data-attributes="member: 52"><p>Re: IEMs, Singers and Occlusion</p><p></p><p></p><p>"Normal" (or "more normal") is relative, when working clubs I found 110 dBA at FOH was not uncommon, with stage levels of 120+ dBA, that's 30+ dB louder than what I want to hear now. </p><p>The vocalist may just like the loud "feel", or be deaf, or want to get over the occlusion/latency problems, or a combination of all three.</p><p></p><p>The "inside head" voice will always be there with in ear monitors, but matching their phase to the to the "inside head" voice is only possible with no latency, or less latency than is currently possible with the "state of the art", especially when digital RF latency is in series with the console latency. </p><p>Once 2.5 MS+ latency is introduced, I don't think mic polarity would be detectable.</p><p></p><p>People are sensitive to different things, many have grown up on digital and when hearing their voice in ears or headphones they have never heard it without latency, so that's the only reference. You can get used to anything, some artists still don't use monitors at all.</p><p></p><p>Others can't stand the sound of latency combined with their "inside head" voice, there is a good reason why Bono is using a Midas Venice for his in ears while they have a pair of XL8 serving the other guys and FOH.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Art Welter, post: 89229, member: 52"] Re: IEMs, Singers and Occlusion "Normal" (or "more normal") is relative, when working clubs I found 110 dBA at FOH was not uncommon, with stage levels of 120+ dBA, that's 30+ dB louder than what I want to hear now. The vocalist may just like the loud "feel", or be deaf, or want to get over the occlusion/latency problems, or a combination of all three. The "inside head" voice will always be there with in ear monitors, but matching their phase to the to the "inside head" voice is only possible with no latency, or less latency than is currently possible with the "state of the art", especially when digital RF latency is in series with the console latency. Once 2.5 MS+ latency is introduced, I don't think mic polarity would be detectable. People are sensitive to different things, many have grown up on digital and when hearing their voice in ears or headphones they have never heard it without latency, so that's the only reference. You can get used to anything, some artists still don't use monitors at all. Others can't stand the sound of latency combined with their "inside head" voice, there is a good reason why Bono is using a Midas Venice for his in ears while they have a pair of XL8 serving the other guys and FOH. [/QUOTE]
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