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<blockquote data-quote="Andrew Broughton" data-source="post: 89225" data-attributes="member: 318"><p>Re: IEMs, Singers and Occlusion</p><p></p><p>Thanks, Art!</p><p></p><p>Just for clarity, I was thinking to 6-12db louder than what other "more normal" vocalists wanted, but wrote "over their mix"...</p><p></p><p>The funny thing was, listening to my own voice back and forth between an analogue path and digital, didn't get rid of the "inside head" voice. It may have sounded a little different, but I didn't spend enough time matching the eqs so it wasn't a really "scientific" experiment. I haven't tried the analogue path with a singer yet. It would be problematic to do a show that way due to the issue with accurately monitoring their mix. I tried switching polarity on my own mic and it made no difference. I also played with delaying the mic further and it changed the sound, but never got rid of that "inside head" voice.</p><p></p><p>I would have expected the latency to show up as a "flanged" sort of effect or hollowness, which is not what I'm hearing. The console I'm testing on is a PM5DRH (2.5ms latency @ 48k).</p><p></p><p>Again, I really don't know what the singers are actually hearing and why they need their vocal so much louder to "hear" it, but my tests lead me to believe they're experiencing a similar problem to what I'm hearing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andrew Broughton, post: 89225, member: 318"] Re: IEMs, Singers and Occlusion Thanks, Art! Just for clarity, I was thinking to 6-12db louder than what other "more normal" vocalists wanted, but wrote "over their mix"... The funny thing was, listening to my own voice back and forth between an analogue path and digital, didn't get rid of the "inside head" voice. It may have sounded a little different, but I didn't spend enough time matching the eqs so it wasn't a really "scientific" experiment. I haven't tried the analogue path with a singer yet. It would be problematic to do a show that way due to the issue with accurately monitoring their mix. I tried switching polarity on my own mic and it made no difference. I also played with delaying the mic further and it changed the sound, but never got rid of that "inside head" voice. I would have expected the latency to show up as a "flanged" sort of effect or hollowness, which is not what I'm hearing. The console I'm testing on is a PM5DRH (2.5ms latency @ 48k). Again, I really don't know what the singers are actually hearing and why they need their vocal so much louder to "hear" it, but my tests lead me to believe they're experiencing a similar problem to what I'm hearing. [/QUOTE]
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