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<blockquote data-quote="Greg Cameron" data-source="post: 26262" data-attributes="member: 42">Re: Apple Loses My RespectI&#039;m not saying they&#039;re innocent, but it&#039;s not as bad as some have made it out to be. I agree that people should have a choice and IIRC, when you turn on the &quot;Location Services&quot; feature on your iDevice for the first time, there is a warning that pops up that you authorize something or other to take place. Of course, people usually don&#039;t read the fine print. Apparently I didn&#039;t. But it is something you have to enable after you get the device activated. Taking a look at my iPhone, there is actually a list of apps on the phone that use the Location Services, quite a few on my device: Around Me, Camera, Compass, Dictation, Facebook, Google, Google Earth, Maps, Mark the Spot, and Safari. So there is a reason it&#039;s there. Now whether or not there needs to be a db file to keep a history is debatable. Apple should probably have a) more prominent notice about the function and what it does, and b) encrypted the data so only the user can get to it in the event a device is stolen/lost, etc.I think Google is far more egregious when it comes to tracking and privacy issues. Again nobody reads the fine print. But any activity you do through any Google app is tracked and kept in perpetuity. Have a Google search bar in your Windows browser? Google not only tracks searches you do, but *any* page you navigate to in your browser even if you didn&#039;t use their search. Gmail? Google Chat? You agree when you sign up that they can keep and use for any purposes, any email or chat you participate in and in perpetuity. Yet I don&#039;t see anyone mentioning that. And you have zero control over that data as it lives with them and not you. Same goes with any of their applications like the word processor, remote storage, etc. Really, they are the &#039;big brother&#039; of the internet and just about everybody complies willingly and unknowingly. They&#039;ve already got various law enforcement agency beating down their door to get at that info, especially after 911. GregP.S. 150MB of patches? Must have been a while since it was fired up since the fix ;-)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greg Cameron, post: 26262, member: 42"] Re: Apple Loses My Respect I'm not saying they're innocent, but it's not as bad as some have made it out to be. I agree that people should have a choice and IIRC, when you turn on the "Location Services" feature on your iDevice for the first time, there is a warning that pops up that you authorize something or other to take place. Of course, people usually don't read the fine print. Apparently I didn't. But it is something you have to enable after you get the device activated. Taking a look at my iPhone, there is actually a list of apps on the phone that use the Location Services, quite a few on my device: Around Me, Camera, Compass, Dictation, Facebook, Google, Google Earth, Maps, Mark the Spot, and Safari. So there is a reason it's there. Now whether or not there needs to be a db file to keep a history is debatable. Apple should probably have a) more prominent notice about the function and what it does, and b) encrypted the data so only the user can get to it in the event a device is stolen/lost, etc. I think Google is far more egregious when it comes to tracking and privacy issues. Again nobody reads the fine print. But any activity you do through any Google app is tracked and kept in perpetuity. Have a Google search bar in your Windows browser? Google not only tracks searches you do, but *any* page you navigate to in your browser even if you didn't use their search. Gmail? Google Chat? You agree when you sign up that they can keep and use for any purposes, any email or chat you participate in and in perpetuity. Yet I don't see anyone mentioning that. And you have zero control over that data as it lives with them and not you. Same goes with any of their applications like the word processor, remote storage, etc. Really, they are the 'big brother' of the internet and just about everybody complies willingly and unknowingly. They've already got various law enforcement agency beating down their door to get at that info, especially after 911. Greg P.S. 150MB of patches? Must have been a while since it was fired up since the fix ;-) [/QUOTE]

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